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where to buy a harp?

topic posted Sun, June 18, 2006 - 9:34 PM by  Unsubscribed
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hi all,
im looking to buy a harp, it has been a dream of mine for a long time and now i know the time is right.
i wouldnt know where to start though. i dont know anythign about harps and where i would find them ..which are worth it etc. i know i want a smaller one to begin with, and that i can travel with.
my father told me about a harp maker on the isle of skye, but i have not found out any info on this.
so if anyone has any harp ridden information, do tell!

thank you. such love, holi
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  • Cid
    Cid
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    Re: where to buy a harp?

    Sun, June 18, 2006 - 9:50 PM
    My first harp was a harpsicle:

    harpsicleharps.com/harps.htm

    They come equipped with strap buttons so you can easily carry them... They don't have sharpening levers, but the same company does make a sharpsicle, if you need that ability...

    There are also a number of cheaper harps available on ebay if you search, but I can't vouch for their quality... I've been very happy with my harpsicle, though...

    good luck on your quest...
    cid
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      Re: where to buy a harp?

      Mon, June 19, 2006 - 4:11 AM
      thanks cid, i shall check it out...

      would you advise to begin with out the sharpening levers ? are they very differnt from one with the levers? and do they easily go out of tune?!

      i have found many american sites, though they dont tend to ship to the UK.

      has anyone heard of the harp makers on the isle of skye, scotland? i have been told of this, but cannot find anything....they are supposed to be beautifully hand carved and not too expensive.
      • Cid
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        Re: where to buy a harp?

        Mon, June 19, 2006 - 8:20 AM
        First off.. While I can play almost anything with strings, I'm not a full time harpist and spend most of my time playing mandolins, guitars, citterns and the like, and know much more about them than I do non-fretted instruments like harps and psalteries.

        That said, without the levers, the harp is tuned to play in the key of C (or A minor)... So it is tuned "C D E F G A B C ..."

        The levers on the sharpsicle are on the C and F strings and allow you to switch to playing in 5 or 6 different keys without retuning... If you'll be trying a lot of Celtic music, you'll find a lot of it is in the key of D and the levers would definately come in handy.

        I also would strongly reccomend getting a chromatic tuner that will clip to the instrument... It dramatically decreases the time it takes to retune.

        My harpsicle stays in tune with itself quite well, but the entire instrument goes sharp or flat with temperature... Once it's acclimated to its surrounding conditions, it usually tunes up and stays there. (The reason for this is the nylon strings don't lengthen or contract with temperature as much as the wood. If it were a metal stringed instrument, like a mandolin, individual strings would change pitch.)

        Guaranteed, harps with intricate hand carving are going to be more costly than rather plain ones... "Not too expensive" is a very relative term...

        As to Scottish harp makers, I've found these:

        Ardival harps: www.ardival.com/

        and Starfish: www.starfishdesigns.co.uk/

        Neither seem to be on the Isle of Skye, though... sorry...

        Good luck,
        cid
  • Bob
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    Re: where to buy a harp?

    Thu, August 10, 2006 - 5:49 PM
    Hi Holi,

    It has been a couple of months since your first post, so I hope you have your harp and are making beutiful music on it. If you are still looking, here are my experiences. Like Cid, I usually play other instuments like guitar, mandolin or cittern, whistles, bones, etc., both celtic and other types of music, but I love the harp. I just picked mine up again after letting it sit on a shelf for several months. I always seem to have to relearn it but a new perspective always teaches me more than I learned before.

    Numerous harps are available for order online and many music stores now carry them, though I am sure this depends on where you live. I would contact the harp maker personnally before ordering online or through a catalogue.

    The harp I have now is a Stony End harp. It was pretty cheap ($300 and an old guitar) used at a music store. It is small enough to carry around and has 22 strings, from G to G - 3 octaves. It has sharping levers on the Cs and Fs So you can play in the keys of C, G, and D. The sharping levers are useful to play harp with others instruments, or to acommodate key changes when stringing together tunes. They also allow you fit tunes onto the harp so that there is room for both melody and accompaniment. Also, some songs use notes that don't fit into a diatonic (do re mi...) scale and sharping levers let you add the notes not prersent in the given key. That being said, I hardly ever use them and just transpose all of my tunes into C and find creative ways to fit in an accompaniment.

    It is not my ideal harp but it will do for now. Regrettably, I sold my my first harp. It was a 29 string replica of the Queen Mary harp, wire-strung, made out of cherry wood. The wire strings have a very different tone than the nylon and tend to ring out and sustain. They also tend to break more often. It was about the same size as my present harp, but the closer string spacing of the wire strings allow more strings in the same space. It had no sharping levers - perhaps this is where i developed my reluctance to use sharping levers - medieval and renaissance harps did not use levers. I loved this harp though I never developed the string-damping techniques that are usually recommended for wire-strung harp.

    One day I hope to build a harp. Perhaps carve it out of a block of willow the way the old Irish and Scottish harps were made. My first block of willow rotted before I could make a harp out of it, so this is still a dream.

    Best of luck to you,
    Bob
  • Re: where to buy a harp?

    Mon, September 18, 2006 - 1:11 PM
    Another late reply - but harpers have a bit of a rep for not keeping time. (That's why I take my harp to drum circles, not sessions...)

    My advice: You've got to, you simply must, try out a number of harps and find which is most appropriate for you.

    Your profile says you are in the SF bay area - is that so? Then you might want to check out Lark in the Morning. Or if you care to make the trek down to Los Angeles, Sylvia Wood's Harp Center is the Mecca for harps on the West coast.

    www.larkinam.com

    harpcenter.com

    I said: You've got to, you simply must, try out a number of harps and find which is most appropriate for you.

    The thing about harps is that they seem to exhibit a lot more variety from maker to maker and even model to model than any other single instrument: string tension, progressive vs. straight spacing, tone, overall shape. And that's before throwing in huge stuff like nylon vs. wire. It happens that I play a Triplett, nylon with a fairly high tension for a folk harp. My friend Mark had a Raimond with a much lower tension. I could not play his harp at all, it felt like rubber bands to me. Yet when he played the Raimond, it sounded incredibly sweet! (And my harp hurt his hands!)

    You said you want a smaller harp for travelling. There are a number of makers in the states. Triplett makes a small travel harp. I like the sound of the small William Rees. Raphael of "Harps of Lorien" is a great guy. And there are others.

    I do own a sharpcicle, too. But I only use it to take to a massage class to demo as an example of a small, light, inexpensive harp. It's my big 38-string that I take to play at bedside, though. Then again I'm 6'2" and can simply carry around a harp that size.

    If you are a promiscuous instrumentalist, then which harp you get may not matter so much. But it seems to me that a lot of harpers "bond" with their harp, christening them with names and such. That's why I advise getting one that appropriate to you now.

    Take care,

    -- T
    • Re: where to buy a harp?

      Sun, September 24, 2006 - 8:34 AM

      Another Harp maker in the Bay Area is Chris Caswell:
      www.caswellharps.com/

      If you've attended a Renaissance Faire or The Dickens Fair in the last few years, you may have seen him performing. (These days he looks a wee bit like Billy Connolly... )
      • Cid
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        Re: where to buy a harp?

        Sun, September 24, 2006 - 9:32 PM
        He is also harping in the streets of Casa de Fruta for the next three weeks... Beautiful instruments and a fantastic harpist...

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